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This topic is a sort of "help me please"...any one who has the knowledge in any of those things that i mentioned please share something.  I know punk and new wave (and some glam), but hey, i know there are people who know better. Kaya nga, "help me!!!"



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One asked me what's the difference with what...i don't want to play genius...that's why i opened this topic.



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uhm... i know i can't help you with this one.


hehe.


listener lang ako.




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You know Offspring....correct me if i'm wrong, di ba sila ang kumanta ng "Pretty Fly for  a White Guy?" 


They are punk...old school...


 



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IMO offspring isn't really old skool, as most people would probably say. they belong to what i'd consider as "post-punk" bands. i mean, after the wave of the 80s and stuff. parang new gen ika nga...



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IMO offspring isn't really old skool, as most people would probably say. they belong to what i'd consider as "post-punk" bands. i mean, after the wave of the 80s and stuff. parang new gen ika nga...-- Edited by senyorito at 12:38, 2006-01-31

Yan ang gusto ko....clarifications.  By the way, what can you say about the emo vs. punk thing? 


On the topic: tell me the distinction between old and new school.  Confused ako in this old school and new school thing, but i listen to seminal punk (ramones).



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oh. okay... i'll use my little knowledge of one of my fave music genres...


 


emo somehow relates to punk in a sense that they both have fast beats and the same angst... it's just that emo is a bit more dark. my chemical romance is emo-punk... nagiging emo minsan ang tawag when you have eyeshadows and wear black attire, which in my opinion, really is a fad nowadays. and let's not forget the haircut. haha.


post-punk basically is that era when every so-called punk bands started to embrace the infulence of pop such as MTV. syempre some of them wanted to go big-time so... they went mainstream. yun yung mga minsan nag-iincorporate ng ibang influences sa punk like sum 41 and good charlotte - putting rap music WHERE IT SHOULD NOT BE. post-punk bands have heavier riffs and even louder screams, and most of them somehow just have a lyrical approach towards life in general - walang political stuff.


... and that's all i know, i think.



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senyorito wrote:

oh. okay... i'll use my little knowledge of one of my fave music genres...   emo somehow relates to punk in a sense that they both have fast beats and the same angst... it's just that emo is a bit more dark. my chemical romance is emo-punk... nagiging emo minsan ang tawag when you have eyeshadows and wear black attire, which in my opinion, really is a fad nowadays. and let's not forget the haircut. haha. post-punk basically is that era when every so-called punk bands started to embrace the infulence of pop such as MTV. syempre some of them wanted to go big-time so... they went mainstream. yun yung mga minsan nag-iincorporate ng ibang influences sa punk like sum 41 and good charlotte - putting rap music WHERE IT SHOULD NOT BE. post-punk bands have heavier riffs and even louder screams, and most of them somehow just have a lyrical approach towards life in general - walang political stuff. ... and that's all i know, i think.
Nice info...emo usually is emotional...right?  Kasi sa punk world, may debate din eh, gets?

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yeah, that's normally the case. pag emo kasi you tend to discuss unrequited love and similar topics. hehehehe.

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yeah, that's normally the case. pag emo kasi you tend to discuss unrequited love and similar topics. hehehehe.
Now help me with new waves please...why new wave is often tie up with punk?  I mean para silang mag bestfriend.

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i think dahil nag start ang punk and new wave sa same era.


napagsama tuloy sya?


o kaya ang malupit na dahilan dyan ay yung walang kamatayang pinoy remix ng sandamukal na kanta noong dekada otsenta.




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bugoytheman wrote:

senyorito wrote: yeah, that's normally the case. pag emo kasi you tend to discuss unrequited love and similar topics. hehehehe. Now help me with new waves please...why new wave is often tie up with punk?  I mean para silang mag bestfriend.

 


oh. okay... primarily cuz they appeared in the same era and of the remixes, ika nga ni pareng fraggle. another factor is that at some point some bands that were considered punk the time changed styles. can't specify an example, considering that my mentality those days were of mere objectives like breast-feeding (haha), but i theorize that depeche mode is a good example.



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oh. okay... primarily cuz they appeared in the same era and of the remixes, ika nga ni pareng fraggle. another factor is that at some point some bands that were considered punk the time changed styles. can't specify an example, considering that my mentality those days were of mere objectives like breast-feeding (haha), but i theorize that depeche mode is a good example.
I noticed that...you know Papadom?  Dati, punk siya, tapos nung 90s until now, reggae na...Depeche Mode?  Nag-iba na nga style nila...pero may techno sound pa rin kahit papano..

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Remember the "hiphop versus metal" era of the 90s?  Halos magkasabay sila...pero magkaaway sila...pero bakit ang new wave and punk...parang magkaibigan?  Oh well, maybe it's the hairdo and clothes...


The Dawn is New Wave when they're new...(listen to enveloped ideas).



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yep. have read an interview bout him and heard him being interviewed sa NU 107 dati. yep, depeche mode still has this electronica sound (i have their song "it's no good" sa profile ko sa friendster account haha)

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yep. have read an interview bout him and heard him being interviewed sa NU 107 dati. yep, depeche mode still has this electronica sound (i have their song "it's no good" sa profile ko sa friendster account haha)
"It's no good"? college ako nung narinig ko yan...

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yep. one of the few songs of theirs i like beside "home"

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yep. one of the few songs of theirs i like beside "home"
Wait...yan ba yung may MTV na multo na siya...nakikita niya yung mga umiiyak sa kanya?

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hmm... i vaguely remember the vid pero medyo parang ganun nga... tagal na rin nun e. high school pa ako nun...



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senyorito wrote:

hmm... i vaguely remember the vid pero medyo parang ganun nga... tagal na rin nun e. high school pa ako nun...
"And i thank you...for bringing me here.." yun ba yun? 1st year college pa ako nun.

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yep.


"...for showing me home, for sharing these tears... finally i found that i belong..." sumthin...



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senyorito wrote:

yep. "...for showing me home, for sharing these tears... finally i found that i belong..." sumthin...
It's sung by Martin Gore...the blond one..."It's no good" was sung by David Gahan...i have heard their new song...i forgot the title... 

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may bago sila? kewl. parang 80s bands are somehow trying to resurface na uli ah... duran duran may bago din...



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may bago sila? kewl. parang 80s bands are somehow trying to resurface na uli ah... duran duran may bago din...
Duran duran?  Pop yun ah...atsaka pamatay boses nun...

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yep. but 80's band pa rin nonetheless.

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yep. but 80's band pa rin nonetheless.
The 80s music is good, but the mainstream clothes? oh my!  By the way, are you familiar with glam rock?

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hmm... ang self-definition ko ng glam is when you have an INXS-ish na japorms eh... or maybe pag hawig mo yung nasa The Darkness... tama ba?

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INXS is glam rock...glamorous 'ika nga...GNR, Skid Row, Poison are considered glam....Usually, may love songs sila...

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bingo nga ako. haha. i listen to some of 'em cuz i really really like the lead guitar solos! haha. especially the way their vox sing

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bingo nga ako. haha. i listen to some of 'em cuz i really really like the lead guitar solos! haha. especially the way their vox sing
Mahilig sila sa mga lead guitars...at vox usualy ng glam ay matitining o matataas ang boses. 

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