1. Don't ask us what time it is. When was the last time you approached a gorgeous girl with the old "Do you have the time?" line and she responded with, "It's two-thirty . . . and, by the way, are you free for dinner?"
2. Never follow us. Unless you are a dog.
3. Eye contact should last exactly 0.28 seconds. The quickest glance is the most effective. Treat us like the sun during a solar eclipse.
4. We're always chilly. Take your jacket off and delicately wrap it around our shoulders. But watch it: Don't plan, for even a second, on using your arms, mister.
5. We hate it when you are late. If you're late, it's over before it began.
6. Never ask us to your place on the first date. We don't know you from Ted Bundy, and even if your intentions are pure, we'll think you just want to have sex.
7. Don't try to seduce us with a trip. You're going to Hawaii next week for a three-day seminar? If you're thinking about inviting us, forget it. The offer alone scares the bejesus out of us.
8. Pick the weirdest part of our body and compliment it. The left elbow, the forehead, shins. Just be creative.
9. Conversely, pick the most obvious part of our beauty and forget about it. Men who compliment our eyes should be taken out back and flogged by a fat Bulgarian dog trainer.
10. We're worth the effort. What else needs to be said? =)
I just wanna ask, those 10 things you should know about women, is that a personal list or is that documented somewhere else?
In my opinion that list is a bit outdated. Maybe those olden times (Maria Clara), that list will be ok, but this day and age where most women are independent, that list doesn't really apply or a bit confusing. I mean some still do apply, but most of the stuff in the list doesn't.
For example:
2. Never follow us? What does it mean? Follow where? Follow orders? I don't get it.
3. Don't you think 0.28 seconds for eye contact is a bit quick? I was taught and based from experience that when you are talking to anyone, you should make eye contact as a sign that you are listening. Doesn't it irritate you when you talk to someone and that person is looking at something else?
4. Women are always chilly? Sometimes women pretend to be chilly to get cozzy. Coz when she's chilly, why didn't she bring a jacket or something?
5. Punctuality is always important as long as it doesn't happen frequently. How can you resist a man who came in late with flowers in his hands and pair of puppy dog eyes, apologizing?
6. What if the date is he plans to cook dinner for you? Isn't it a bit malicious or a shot at your self confidence when you think that a man only wants you for sex? I guess most of the time they do, but sometimes they don't. Sometimes, men do love women for other things other than her body. Just listen to the gut feelings and always carry a can of maze in your bag if you're not sure.
8. Eh? Compliment the weirdest part? That's the first time I've heard it. It's a bit disturbing.
9. Well, what if you have the most beautiful eyes? Those are one of the first things that people notice, it's only normal that they get complimented.
10. I agree with this, but you know, sometimes, some women are bitches, just like some men are ****s. Some women are worth it, some are not. In my opinion, men should just be themselves when they're trying to woo a woman. coz sometimes, being ourselves is the best gift we can offer. And sometimes, it really does work. How can one love a man fully when he's an angel at first, then an jerk after? Consistency, that's what I'd say.
di ko sure kung ano'ng source ni lei, but this list is one of those that makes the round sa forwarded emails.
3. eye contact- of course, eye contact's important when you're talking to a person. but i think #3 refers in particular to when you're just establishing a connection. it's the customary "hi-hello there" first glance. pakiramdaman on the second, and a third just before making any moves. any longer than what's necessary, and you get a different impression altogether. hehe! i can't elaborate but i learned this from a hooker.
4. women are always chilly? there's this reader's digest column that actually tackled this. it's because men can tolerate cold more than the women. so the 'romantic' gesture when the guy offers his jacket to the girl isn't that romantic at all.
6. that's why it specified ".. the first date". god forbid things go wrong, but what's a can of mace vs a man in his territory?
8. compliment the weirdest part. goes both ways.
10.point taken.
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Originally posted by: dreamer 10. In my opinion, men should just be themselves when they're trying to woo a woman. coz sometimes, being ourselves is the best gift we can offer.
now that'll get you far.. hehe!
-najanaja
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may counterpart ba ang list na 'to re: what women should know bout men?? dami na'ng nasulat about & for the women. sa mga songs pa lang (John Lennon's Woman, Costello's She, ....) but what about for the guys??
la lang...
-najanaja
-- Edited by najanaja at 22:12, 2004-10-27
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hi naja! thanks for answering, you've pretty much covered it... and you're right, i got this from one of my forwarded emails.. from friendster actually..
hi dreamer! peace tayo.. =) i'll try to answer like what naja did.. hmm..
gaya ng sabi ko kay naja, its not a personal list.. if it were, there'd be more 'not so good' things to be said.. for both women and men, we can't make sweeping generalizations.. each one is a special case.. but this list is what was observed by some to a certain extent, but yes, it is not true for all situations..
2. never follow us i guess pertains to stalkers.. you know sometimes, guys get a little over-eager to pursue girls they like.. as for andrea and glen.. on this aspect, bagay sila sa isa't isa.. hehe..
3. eye contact for more than 0.28 seconds (or whatever enteded length of time) is called staring.. and our teachers always told us that it is rude to stare..
4. men have more insulation: read FATS while most women are thin or trying to be sexy with extensive diets just to be thin/sexy (altho' some women are also ahem 'generously endowed' ) so i guess as naja said, this is why women get cold.. but you also have a point there, some women would 'pretend' to be cold to get close.. but that's usually a guy's tactic.. pretending i mean.
5. coming on time for schedules, dates or whatever works for both ways.. people should be on time (listen to your own advice lei!)
6. you said it, most of the time, men are out there hunting women for sex.. if it's on a first date, i don't think a guy would really do what you said.. unless he's been after the woman for years.. i mean, come on.. usually, first dates between people is a getting to know stage.. maybe its common for western countries for people doing it after meeting once but that means that both man and woman are not serious, therefore, both of them are just looking for sex and not something more..
8. creativity
8 & 9 personally, i think men should always complement their women.. especially if it's true.. hindi lang yung pambobola.. and it also goes both ways.. if i think my guy is really great.. i tell him that.. with hugs and kisses..
10. works both ways again..
haay.. i guess these are the results (your opinions, others' and mine's) of uhhmm 'not-so-successful' relationships.. good luck sa ating lahat on finding each of our own happiness and fulfillment..
I apologize if I came in too strong with my posting. Never meant it to sound that way.
I think men are underrated. You always hear about men not being sensitive enough or not emotionally mature enough, etc. etc. But that's coz most women are so difficult to read. I guess when the day comes that men can read minds, then that's the day when they can fully understand women.
And then when a woman meets a guy who's sensitive (who's almost like a "woman"), then she'll complain that she needs a "real man." Very confusing eh?
Men are pretty cool too, and I think they deserve a little bit more credit. Men are created that way for proper balance. We should be thankful they are the way they are...
quote: Originally posted by: dreamer "I apologize if I came in too strong with my posting. Never meant it to sound that way. I think men are underrated. You always hear about men not being sensitive enough or not emotionally mature enough, etc. etc. But that's coz most women are so difficult to read. I guess when the day comes that men can read minds, then that's the day when they can fully understand women. And then when a woman meets a guy who's sensitive (who's almost like a "woman"), then she'll complain that she needs a "real man." Very confusing eh? Men are pretty cool too, and I think they deserve a little bit more credit. Men are created that way for proper balance. We should be thankful they are the way they are... "
no need to apologize! this is what the forum is for.. mas gusto ko nga na magpost at mag-comment ang mga tao para may conversation tayo di ba?
i think we should just take this lightly.. i mean, whatever one says of the opposite gender works both ways.. there are bad men, and good men, as much as there are bad women and good women..
...And vice versa... If you're a good man who ended up with a bad woman, consider yourself lucky. Coz if you're a good woman who ended up with a bad man, then you have a higher probability of physical abuse.
That's why one must love herself/himself enough to know that she/he is in a bad relationship and she/he deserves better... and know when it's time to get out of that relationship.
Is divorce legal in the Philippines or is it for celebrities only?
quote: Originally posted by: LP "ryt,,, pero kung ang good men to bd women,,,,,under ka naman "
Naman, naman... Bakit naman sya magpapa-under? Is she bigger than him? Can she kick his ass? Does she own a gun? Is she a member of the mafia and she can have him killed at anytime? Are they married? If he's not and if he doesn't like being in that relationship, get out! What is it that's keeping him there? A relationship should be as much as possible equal. And if this good man is with a bad woman, and he knows it, then he should really think about this one hard and decide if he wants to leave her... UNLESS of course he enjoys this kind of a relationship. You know the master and servant kinda thing, the submissive - dominant kinda thing. Maybe the things that happen in the bedroom is what's keeping him there !