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eNiGMaTiC NiRVaNa

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they are either confirming or denying benoit's death to steroids.. weird noh?
i mean... ain't it obvious? he's body was found in his basement weights room... weights men.. weights... till death e obssess c benoit sa body structure nya...

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may fragile x syndrome daw ung anak nya kaya nya pinatay....

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so while the bodies of his wife and kid lay there, he worked out before deciding to commit suicide? man, that's one unhinged guy.

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hahaha. nasira yung storyline na biniuld up ni mcmahon dahil sa pagkamatay ni Benoit. sorry mr mcmahon, but benoit's death is more gut wrenching than your car explosion.

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benoit's death is really a shocker...

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psychoCOW wrote:

BASTA, I will always remember him as one of the wrestlers I loved watching the most. I'll hold on to that and only that.

(Still, if he really did kill his wife and kid... F*CK YOU, I HOPE YOU F*CKING BURN IN HELL!!!)




 Pati yata tribute kay Benoit pinagsisihan nilang ilabas. XD



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How sad... Sayang yung talent niya...

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Megara wrote:

may fragile x syndrome daw ung anak nya kaya nya pinatay....




what is X syndrome?confused



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fragile x syndrome is a genetic disorder kung saan nagiging mentally retarded ang bata due to the faulty gene sa X-chromosome.

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Change subject na. Please?

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sige change subject na.

nung isang araw ko lang nalaman na patay na rin pala si Bambam Bigelow. ngek.

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does anyone still watch wwe? i stopped when trish and lita 'retired'. puro ditz na ang divas. mas maganda pa tuloy matches ng women's division sa tna.

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yup....bumalik na si chris jericho sa raw...na shock si orton...

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I tried groundfighting ..... or was forced into it pala. I find it somewhat challenging and enjoyable though my right eye bled

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ouch!!! crash.gif

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hehehe, i did grappling once, the FMA type, better than juijitsu... anyway, Y2J? back? funny, now edge has a cutting edged rival in verbosity....

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yah...a twisted script para ma entertain ang mga audience..crash.gif

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Meh, WWE. I stick to puroresu, hustle or Japanese Pro-Wrestling now. No dramas, just comedy with a lotta violence.


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ufc na lang...crash.gif

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it's all about technique din pala talaga. The Marines na nagturo sa amin explained na kung mas malaki at matangkad kalaban mo, you can even the odds by fighting on the ground (grappling). Makes sense. It was fun....but I had an instant tonsilitis when my opponent buried his elbow on my throat. That was mean

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above.gif ouch! how's your throat?

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cant u even bite his elbow????crash.gif

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bowen wrote:

it's all about technique din pala talaga. The Marines na nagturo sa amin explained na kung mas malaki at matangkad kalaban mo, you can even the odds by fighting on the ground (grappling). Makes sense. It was fun....but I had an instant tonsilitis when my opponent buried his elbow on my throat. That was mean



Did the marines teach you to underestimate your opponent too? Size, Bulk and strength are important factors in a grappling battle. Flexibility and conditioning aren't the only things to consider when you take the fight to the ground.

 



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You can't choose who to fight. Whoever is infront of you, willing to make a strawberry slush out of your brains, you just have to fight him.... bulk, strenght or any flexibility whatsoever, they no longer matter. No time to know or size up your opponent. It's a fight to the death. It was a non-sporting kind.... almost had my trachea crushed in the fight....no foul. They don't call fouls or time-outs in real-life. They made us fight like that, so as to discover our strengths and weaknesses in such battle

-- Edited by bowen at 17:42, 2007-12-13

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bowen wrote:

You can't choose who to fight. Whoever is infront of you, willing to make a strawberry slush out of your brains, you just have to fight him.... bulk, strenght or any flexibility whatsoever, they no longer matter. No time to know or size up your opponent. It's a fight to the death. It was a non-sporting kind.... almost had my trachea crushed in the fight....no foul. They don't call fouls or time-outs in real-life. They made us fight like that, so as to discover our strengths and weaknesses in such battle

-- Edited by bowen at 17:42, 2007-12-13

-- Edited by bowen at 17:42, 2007-12-13



That's right, you can't choose who you fight, so why do your mentors assume that knowledge of the ground game will even the playing field when you're fighting against a taller and stronger opponent? I've seen grapplers lose to larger opponents with less experience. Hell, even I went toe to toe with a fighter with a grappling background back when I was mostly a striker and I still won that spar.

What do you mean Strength, Flexibility or Bulk doesn't matter?  Didn't you feel the pressure of his elbow down your throat? Would he have put you in a dangerous position if he didn't have the physical requirements of a fighter?

No time to size up your opponent? A wise fighter can assess or get a rough idea of his opponent at a glance. Knowing this much and even this little about the opponent greatly affects the result of the battle. It's as simple as tall person=long reach, pudgy person=competent center of gravity, and so on and so forth. Calculating what your opponent's capabilities are help with what strategy to use.

You say it was a fight to the death? Why are you still alive and posting? Why did you even take up the challenge?  You clearly don't even understand the basics of close combat and yet you arrogantly put your life on the line just to find your strengths and weaknesses. You really shouldn't be telling me how fights- sport or otherwise- should go down if you treat hand to hand combat like some shounen anime scene where you'll suddenly go Super Saiyan in the direst situation.

I greatly suggest you find yourself another mentor, preferably one who will not endanger his students, and find your warrior self the proper way.

 



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easy, bro. that's just how they teach. no arrogance there. they just want to make you fight like it's to the death. the battle scene that they (and we) would be oriented to shall be one like that of which would dart out of (or in) the dark or around corners and grab weapons or when your weapon runs dry. not the types we go up front and size them up and think of strategies (because we'd rather arrest them or shoot them if we have to). they taught us that if he's bigger than you (and that would have to be made in a split-second), try to take down the opponent and fight on the ground.

i did place myself in a vey disadvantageous position (it wan't a challenge...all of us had to go in). am alive because it's just a training and i tapped out. had i not tap out, things would have been worse. they make u decide if we can take the pain or not. we never treat it as a sport. indeed it's a fight that can result to death. death for not tapping out is your choice.

i would agree with my mentors on the taking down the bigger opponent thing. size and height can be gauged in a split-second, and that's why they said that. as an option, ground fighting should be resorted to as last option. as long as you have your primary (and side arm) weapon.... no need to go groundfighting (until you lose them or run dry).

they also taught us chokes, eye-gouges, groin kicks and neck twists (not allowed in sports though). if the opponent falls down after a strong choke, you follow it up with a boot stomp in the face. that's just the way they teach it. no wise fighter kinda thing about sizing up a opponent of his strengths and weakneses. if he's bigger and taller, we're told to take the fighting to the ground.

when i said flexibility, strength and bulk don't matter.... in my humble opinion, they no longer do. faced with a more flexible, stronger and bulkier opponent, all I can think is how to apply a choke or stomp my boot on his face or twist his neck in the quickest way i can think of. sure, he might win.... but all i can think of is how to win and survive ( I can't just say that "oh, he's bulkier, bigger ad more flexible. I'm dead meat"). In fact, they actually suggested that we go against such type during training (the bulkier, bigger ones)

putting my life on the line was not made in arrogance. i can always tap out if i wat to. i just want to know how i would fare if i would get to in such a situation... and i found my weakness (a nerve area 'less-resistant' to pressure), and am thankful for that.

you may know this thing as a science or art together with that super sayan thing that goes with it. i respect that that... and admire you and would do hats off to you for that as definitely you know this thing better than i do. but like i said, if am up against a more flexible, bulkier and stronger opponent, then I have no choice but hope God would on my side while i fight him. He's being a better fighter would no longer matter to me since I don't have a choice.

my mentors were the type who indeed endanger the students..... but that's they way they do things.

am not really telling anyone how the fight should go. with all said and done, all am really saying is that faced with a better, bigger fighter in a groundfight, is to fight back as there's no tapping out (am referring to how we were trained) and hope a miracle would happen.

you know these things better than i do..... but still flexibility, bulk and strength won't matter to me. it's just the way it is for me (would consider getting a back up weapon in addition to my sidearm, though).

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This fight school of yours has me intrigued. I have to see this training for myself once I visit the Philippines. What style is this? I could almost swear it's Sarian.

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No fight school. Just bunch of American marines training. Nothing formal. Just plain survival. They just give you a scenario. While clearing a room or when somebody pops up when your weapon runs dry and you need to secure a point of domination.... you just go for each other's throats if you cant have the chance to slice them. That's where they teach how to go into full mount, high guard and all those bars. They put you into high guard and try to work your way out or vice versa..... and for training purposes, no 'foul' attacks allowed (which certainly I would use...though hoping I don't have to use it), though in battle..perfectly acceptable (because the other guy wants you dead). If we grapple for too long.... they break us up and consider us dead. Groundfighting that would go for a certain length of time would make both guys 'dead' since the point of domination was not secured in a given time.... because by then, the bad guys may have made a move to retake it.

Again, it's not a formal training school. All day, I've seen them going through one scenario through another on how to free oneself from a lock and all that. they just teach you how....you just have to find it out yourelf when you're on the ground.

I don't know if it's Sarian or whatever.... all I was told is that my opponent wants me dead the same way I would want him that way too..... and some techniques on how to get one's self to apply chokes, gouges, arm bars and all that as well as how to get out of it. It's a battle to the death. Simple as that.


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And the purpose of this training is?

Anyways, I'd like to take on your mentors if I get the chance. Hopefully.

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hah, as the late great bruce lee once said, or something like this:

"There's no greatest martial art, only greatest martial artist."

I guess, it's true, I was once a white belter in tae kwon do ( but a level 3 green belter in karate) and I have to spar with black belters because I'm the only middle weight jin at that time, funny we're evenly matched (their speed against my power) martial arts isn't just about fisticuffs, it's tactics on where to punch and when to kick, or when to grapple.



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